I would, however, challenge your definition of a “good” God…as if the supreme being would be subject to your judgement of “good”. That’s the rub in the whole divine judgement thing—that God decides what is good and how you measure up to God’s standard, not the other way around.

I believe that God is so inconceivably good (read:holy, perfect) that any and all badness (read:sin, that which is opposed to God) can’t even be in God’s presence. So when we originally and continually chose/choose bad, we were done for (thus his justice). His goodness was shown, however, in that he provided a way (all through his effort and ability) through the sacrifice of his most precious possession—his Son (mysteriously a part of himself). And furthermore, he maintained our freedom by providing us the choice of whether to accept that gift—that way to escape the justice that we all deserve.

So, hell is very offensive and unfashionable, but I wouldn’t call it silly…nor does the Bible use it as a scare-tactic (the way many Christians do). You may be familiar with this explanation, but from what you said it didn’t sound like you necessarily understood it, so I thought I’d throw it out there for a thinker like you to give proper consideration to.

I typed this one to your second post and posting this again here. I had a few errors committed and I just realized now what had happened between us.

I was caught between slow internet settings as I usually save my posts as I type them to avoid the internet hanging up and my post disappearing.

My error was saving my post as I type it down, saving, eventually editing it without realizing that you yourself was reading my post already. I have just found out the mistake when someone told me about it from newsvine.com.

You know, whenever I save my post, the format that I used for wordpress sometimes change. I posted a quote from me and then it attached to your quote that I pasted. When I edited it, maybe, I mistook it as your own quote. Again, I am editing my posts, save, then read, and then go back to edit options to correct some errors.

Maybe we, have differences in way of posting what we type. But then again, it is not an excuse for me. For this I am very sorry, that the quote that I made has offended you because it becomes as you wrote it.

And I will not delete what you wanted me to delete because I want people to read my blog as something that is assuring that the mistakes you read there in my blog and the corrections you wrote in your own blog would be transparent.

We may have different views in logic and religion, but we are still people who can be friends in terms of good works. I hope as a friend, you will first look at where people are coming from, it is not the person, it is the teachings yours truly and my presiding minister is trying to inform people. Christianity becomes a taboo from other people because those who taught it and lived by it did not behave as a true Christian, you will see hypocrisy. And to generalize that all Christians are like this is not logical. Maybe you can try to research more about us, not because I just say so, but because your logic will tell you that it makes sense.

I committed my mistakes and I hope you forgive me for that.

What I meant with that quotation is that if you want to learn the teachings of God, you should learn the right teachings. Some Pastors or Priests uses the same verses, quoting from the Bible, but when they start to give their sermon, they give their own opinions opposite what they read. The quotations from the bible become a new teaching the way they say them. And you will not wonder why people becomes more evil because of the new teachings. And if you will just study the unadulterated teachings, you will see that logic and religion in the HOLY Bible is interrelated.

James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

1 Timothy 5:4
But if a widow has children or grandchildren, these should learn first of all to put their religion into practice by caring for their own family and so repaying their parents and grandparents, for this is pleasing to God.

I had a few errors committed and I just realized now what had happened between us.

I was caught between slow internet settings as I usually save my posts as I type them to avoid the internet hanging up and my post disappearing.

My error was saving my post as I type it down, saving, eventually editing it without realizing that you yourself was reading my post already. I have just found out the mistake when someone told me about it from newsvine.com.

You know, whenever I save my post, the format that I used for wordpress sometimes change. I posted a quote from me and then it attached to your quote that I pasted. When I edited it, maybe, I mistook it as your own quote. Again, I am editing my posts, save, then read, and then go back to edit options to correct some errors.

Maybe we, have differences in way of posting what we type. But then again, it is not an excuse for me. For this I am very sorry, that the quote that I made has offended you because it becomes as you wrote it.

And I will not delete what you wanted me to delete because I want people to read my blog as something that is assuring that the mistakes you read there in my blog and the corrections you wrote in your own blog would be transparent.

We may have different views in logic and religion, but we are still people who can be friends in terms of good works. I hope as a friend, you will first look at where people are coming from, it is not the person, it is the teachings yours truly and my presiding minister is trying to inform people. Christianity becomes a taboo from other people because those who taught it and lived by it did not behave as a true Christian, you will see hypocrisy. And to generalize that all Christians are like this is not logical. Maybe you can try to research more about us, not because I just say so, but because your logic will tell you that it makes sense.

I committed my mistakes and I hope you forgive me for that.

What I meant with that quotation is that if you want to learn the teachings of God, you should learn the right teachings. Some Pastors or Priests uses the same verses, quoting from the Bible, but when they start to give their sermon, they give their own opinions opposite what they read. The quotations from the bible become a new teaching the way they say them. And you will not wonder why people becomes more evil because of the new teachings. And if you will just study the unadulterated teachings, you will see that logic and religion in the HOLY Bible is interrelated.

James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

1 Timothy 5:4
But if a widow has children or grandchildren, these should learn first of all to put their religion into practice by caring for their own family and so repaying their parents and grandparents, for this is pleasing to God.

otherwise, well played.

10: ‘Rock n Roll will save your Soul’? Either the soul doesn’t exists, and if it does how will it save the soul?… Time after time, I will catch you?

9: When the nothing in the universe explodes it was not there, and it will not be there when the universe implodes again (it is an effect, not even a brute fact)

8:Music exists? Descartes and modern scepticism might not agree, it may be an illusion

7: Many people think much music is wrong, the Classical ear find Metal abhorrent. Styles are often blamed for school shootings.

6: Music can comfort, or help you escape?

5:True, music is an abstract noun so is not capable of conscious emotion, I’ll give you that one.

4: It doesn’t? http://scholar.google.co.za/scholar?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&hs=paV&q=author:%22Capozzoli%22+intitle:%22Kids+Killing+Kids:+Managing+Violence+and+Gangs+in+Schools%22+&um=1&ie=UTF-8&oi=scholarr

3: Marylin Manson in his songs seems to care if people wanna fit in (beautiful people), try wearing a I love America Shirt to a Marylin Manson concert.

2: see point four… furthermore people have gone deaf, especially band members who do drums

1:True, cause music cant make demands

Please take this comment in the same vein that you wrote it, not being nasty, just linguistic banter

I never said that I thought you were talking specifically to me.

“Maybe those are not misquotes most especially not a reference to you, but to those who are concerned.”

I honestly have no idea what meaning you are trying to convey with this sentance. I would reccomend, if you wish to be to be taken seriously, that you work on your sentance structure and syntax. Proper syntax is generally good to have if you wish to be understood.

“But then again, if you felt that the misquotes I’ve done which you feel imputed on you, well read them again.”

The issue, here, Elmantheman, is not, and has never been whether or not I feel that your blatent misquotations have imputed on me. The issue is the fact that you wrote those misquotations in the first place. And by merely crossing them out, you still imply that I have said them. Which is why I implore you to delete them from your site.

But then again, if you felt that the misquotes I’ve done which you feel imputed on you, well read them again. Maybe those are not misquotes most especially not a reference to you, but to those who are concerned.

1 Thessalonians 2:3
For the appeal we make does not spring from error or impure motives, nor are we trying to trick you.

You can take away what I said even the Title of the Books, the Chapters, and the verses, just let the scripture remain from those verses, the messages remains true.